Malcolm Nance Impeachment Day Interview On The Stephanie Miller Show

It’s Donald Trump’s Impeachment Day in the House of Representatives. What better way to mark the day and illuminate the Trump-Russia conspiracy than this. A Malcolm Nance interview on the Stephanie Miller Show. Malcolm predicted the tagging of Trump as a Russian agent. Also he foresaw the Tulsi mis-vote and her potential decision to run a third party campaign. We need to get indivisible and reject agents of division during this nation’s most crucial election year. Vote- the stakes have never been higher.

 

Stephanie Miller:

Happy Impeachment Day, Malcolm.
Okay, so you know what, we keep talking about this, Malcolm. This is right in your bailiwick, as they say. What he’s freaking out about is this #DmitriFirst story, probably. Is that there’s money that obviously is funding Giuliani in this Russian disinformation campaign about Ukraine, is coming directly from Russia through Lev Parnas. Right?

Malcolm Nance:

Yeah. You’re absolutely right. Firtash [Ukrainian oligarch] is just tied deeply and closely to Manefort. Who, by the way, had a cardiac arrest yesterday. Cardiac incident while in jail. If I was Manefort I would be pretty miffed that Rick Gates got 45 days.

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Stephanie Miller:

Well he’s still cooperating though, right?

Malcolm Nance:

Yeah he’s still cooperating but then again so might Lev Parnas. I mean this may be what the Parnas’ lawyers were dropping hints about that. They got a million dollars from Firtash but how do we know that that was not part of this whole deal and that the prosecutors and the FBI know all about it. This may be the string that they’re pulling to lead them in a roundabout way from Russia funding this entire operation using oligarchs and using Rudy Giuliani. It can only get deep from here.

Stephanie Miller:

By the way, just so people know if you aren’t paying attention. Firtash is also said to be directly implicated in Giuliani’s efforts to obtain dirt on the Biden family. In November he told the New York Times that Giuliani, Parnas, and Fruman promised to utilize connections at the DOJ to help him. While he helped them pursue and obtained, well, fake evidence regarding the Biden thing. I mean, this whole thing is so dirty. Great that you know Rudy’s trying to get the DOJ to help them if they help him. I mean, it’s sixteen layers of dirty.

Malcolm Nance:

Sure Firtash is wanted. So what you have is, you have this Russian oligarch carrying out an operation where he thinks he’s paying off and funding this secret operation. That, to be quite honest, I would not be surprised if in the end when Giuliani is arrested that it turns out that this was how Giuliani was making money.

That Lev Parnas with getting money. That Giuliani was getting paid by this and from this oligarch in order to raise these arrest warrants that were out for him. Not to mention, doing all of the bidding of the Kremlin. Because as you can see, the Kremlin is behind all of this. I think it’s just damages Solinskey. It damages our relationships. It gets us to stop giving them weapons. It gets Trump off, gets Russia off the hook for the 2016 election. I mean this thing is labyrinthine. Only because it’s money, and like all things money, that flows like water and everybody wants some.

Stephanie Miller:

I mentioned this yesterday but saved the details for you.

In the wake of Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov’s visit to the Oval Office last week, Russian state TV aired a segment entitled Puppet Master, An Agent. How to understand Lavrov’s meeting with Trump and characterize the visit as an example of Trump being subservient to Russian interests. President Vladimir Putin’s propaganda brigades, they said, enjoy watching the heightened divisions in the United States and how it hurts relations between the US and Ukraine. Writes The Daily Beast and the host quipped that Trump would have to seek refuge in Russia once he’s out of office. You said America endorses this option. Yeah this is extraordinary.

Malcolm Nance:

What’s extraordinary about it is how many times have we all been called conspiracy theorists but you’re putting out not even the crazy parts. Just putting out the basic information on the Trump-Russia scandal. I mean we have all these people I call Trump Russia truthers, okay. Who are people who say that this never happened, from the left and from the crazy far right, and now here we have Russian television bragging about it. Bragging about Trump as their agent.

Stephanie Miller:

Let me just report, yeah let me read this from Daily Beast. Giuliani’s efforts on behalf of Trump are bound to pay propaganda dividends for the Kremlin. Putin has expressed undisguised delight with the crusade led by Trump and Giuliani to whitewash Moscow’s interference in US elections and plan to pin the blame on Kiev. The emerging narrative from Russian propaganda outlets puts the hypocrisy of Republicans on full display. The Kremlin having argued for years that democracy is a sham and the West is devoid of morals and principles, can now showcase the GOP as Exhibit A. I mean, how long have you been talking about this? It is that they have co-opted an entire party. Not just Trump.

Malcolm Nance:

Three books worth and that’s why this, in my latest book Plot to Betray America is exactly that. There’s an entire chapter in there called American Fifth Columnist. This is where the Republican Party has decided that they will go along with any crazy Russian intelligence induced operation and rumor in order to protect Donald Trump. America be damned. So, that’s why I put my warning out the other day. I don’t know if you’ve read that but we’re in trouble. We’re in serious serious national security jeopardy here. Because while everyone’s talking about impeachment, there is a bigger operation at play here. And that is Russian intelligence and Vladimir Putin have figured out that Rudy Giuliani is the conduit for how they are going to destroy the Democrats.

Also destroy American democracy going forward. By having professionals who will create documents. Let me tell you something. When you give an agency a few billion dollars they can print up foreign money by using the exact same machines. So Giuliani starts whipping out documents on Berisma and whipping out documents signed by Joe Biden which have never been seen in this world. Believe me, their intent is to make sure that Trump wins this election and they will at this point, as we see do anything, and Giuliani is willing to do anything to make sure that the Russians, and Trump, and pro-Moscow Ukrainians win this battle and destroy American democracy.

Stephanie Miller:

So how do we fight that I guess would be the question. Now that you’ve terrified the bejesus out of me.

Malcolm Nance:

We can fight it the way that I always say it and that’s sunlight. With regards to the very fact that I’m saying this out loud in advance. It’s one of those things like where we we tell terrorists we know what their operations are. What they’re going to hit. Because that means they have to recalculate and reroute. Now the impeachment is giving Trump all of this grief to the point where the Russian meta-narrative of the Ukraine was the one who hacked the 2016 election comes off as crazy for 60% of America. Only Trump’s supporters buy into all of that stuff. The only way really to hurt them is to do what I do with alarming regularity on the Internet. I asked them why they’re all commie lovers.

Stephanie Miller:

You know we just had a caller that said I’m gonna be an impeachable deplorable by the end of the day, and I’ll wear it as a badge of honor, just like Trump will. Ukraine if you’re listening send those emails.

 

Malcolm Nance:

Yeah, well we’ve got to do a counter ideological, mortal combat on this issue and the funny thing is. Again, we have been hammered. This show. I know you know my buddy there Andrew Sullivan and the Glenn Greenwald’s, and the Matt Taibbis, and the Isaac Chotners at New York Mag all came out and were saying. Well how does he? This is crazy. You know, you’re saying Trump is an agent. Now the Russians are saying Trump is an agent!

Stephanie Miller:

Thank you. Well, Eric Swalwell just tweeted that he got bashed for saying Trump’s a Russian agent and then he retweeted the headline Russian Television says Trump is an agent of Russia. By the way, so you also said in terms of the party. You said Trump calls the GOP the United Republican Party. Maybe because Putin leads the United Russia Party. Donald Trump just cannot quit that man.

Malcolm Nance:

That’s weird that Trump called it the United Republican Party and I don’t know whether he was just doing it as a rhetorical flourish to show that the Never Trumpers aren’t part of that but if he starts using that phrase, right? URP. Well that is the name of Vladimir Putin’s party, the United Russia Party. All this stuff is no longer coincidence right? Nance’s law has been long thrown out the window. It is obviously part of a pattern of information where people within the Trump camp within his Oval Office see themselves as a subordinate entity to Russia. Look, the government of Austria did that. As soon as they won.

This was a party that was formed, by the way, by two Waffen-SS Nazi officers in 1952. When they won power in 2016 the first thing they did was sign a joint unity contract between their Alternative for Austria Party and the United Russia Party tying them together for economic social cultural and political contacts. Is this being done by Donald Trump in those phone calls we don’t know about? Are the Republicans now completely subordinate to Russia? We just discussed this on the talk an upcoming edition of the Talking Feds podcast. Where Franklin Guzzi said, are we having a counterintelligence Pearl Harbor? Where we don’t realize it, but that the United States may in fact have had an entire party infiltrated and co-opted by a foreign government.

Stephanie Miller:

By the way Bob Cesca brought this up. Did you watch the Lisa Paige interview on Maddow last night? Because he was saying, what was disturbing is what happened to the counter intelligence investigation? Because she says, like, Yes, Mueller was doing the criminal one.

Malcolm Nance:

Interestingly enough, Lisa Paige, Peter Strozk, Andrew McCabe, all of these guys were the FBI’s and Justice’s top counterintelligence people. Peter Strozk was the top Russian mafia hunter at the FBI. So was Andrew McCabe, who cut his teeth hunting the Russian mafia in the Rockaways in New York City. So something I realized. These people needed to be taken out.

Stephanie Miller:

But that’s what I’m saying. What was her answer, I couldn’t tell. Was her answer that someone made it go away, the counterintelligence investigation?

Malcolm Nance:

Well, we don’t know. According to the Muller report there was a counterintelligence component to it, but whether there is still extant a operation where the FBI is going after all the Russian intelligence people that are in the country. That may have been related to this.

I think that one of my fellow bloggers here on Twitter who did research for me and she helped with Youngers Craig Youngers’ book, House of Putin – House of Trump. On how the ties to the Russian Mafia are outrageous. I mean, they are the subcontractor for Russian intelligence. So you don’t need to see spies when you have billionaire Russian mafia oligarchs who are doing this work for the Kremlin. Then every once in a while an ex-spy pops up, but most of them are money fixers who have had deep relationships with Trump. This is where we need to be watching.

Stephanie Miller:

Malcolm before we go. Again you are so right about this is their narrative; United Republican Party Democrats in disarray. You keep warning us at Exhibit A. You said Tulsi Gabbard will be the one Democrat to vote to allow Trump’s bribery and extortion in Putin’s attack to continue. She should just switch parties now. Her own words indicate she will betray that oath. She will betray us all. Word is, of course she’s already trying to push for censure not impeachment.

Malcolm Nance:

Look I’ll tell you right now. If that guy from Minnesota or Wisconsin? Peterson. Decides he’s gonna vote present or something like that, Tulsi Gabbard will be the one to vote no against the Articles of Impeachment, both of them. I mean she’s- who knows what party she belongs in. She should just get out now. She just go follow the role of Van Drew and just become a Republican or declare yourself the Independent that she’s been pretending she’s going to be, and she’s going to run as third party. She is the Jill Stein of this election.

Stephanie Miller:

She’s the Jill Stein of Susan Sarandons! I was just gonna say, though, real quick. Van Drew, that should be a cautionary tale. Nobody wants him. The Republicans just called him a weasel and are going to run against him too. Nobody likes a weasel. Finally, you said vote for who you love in the primary but this awesome Joe Biden video is right. We do we need to stop Trump at all costs.

Malcolm Nance:

Good God. If you haven’t watched the Joe Biden video that came out yesterday. OK, first off you’re gonna get a little guy cry at the end of it. Because, I don’t care who the nominee is, that’s the stakes. The stakes are the Constitution of the United States. Thomas Jefferson who, this is interesting because, Biden put out this thing about Jefferson being sort of a hypocrite. He was a slave owner who was actually having children with his slaves, but knew that we would always advance toward becoming a more perfect union. Over time our legacy would be that we would become a great nation, and he says this is all at risk. It is all at risk, this is it. This is the election of your life time. For me it is.

 

Stephanie Miller:

Malcolm, real quick before you go. Val in Maine wants to know about what that Russian ship is doing off the East Coast. You heard about that?

Malcolm Nance:

Yeah, the crate ship. It’s out there tapping cables. What they’re doing I mean you know one of these days, all right. You know I wrote this in my book. That Benedict Arnold, I gave him such a bad rap in my video. I was talking about him with Donald Trump. Well I owe him an apology because Trump’s not gonna be like Benedict Arnold. He’s gonna be like another Major General who was in the US Army at the time, who we found out in 1859 was a traitor. You know it’s gonna take time. We’re eventually going to find the documents, but I want to see whether that Russian ship correlates to major activities and communications coming out of Washington DC. Nah, I find that hard to believe. Hey, one last thing about Van Drew the guy wears plaid shirts and a plaid jacket.

Stephanie Miller:

Yeah, that’s impeachable All right. Treasons Greetings.

 

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